Rebecca Ching, LMFT is a Leadership Developer, Speaker, Psychotherapist, Writer, and Workshop Facilitator. She is the CEO and founder of Potentia Family Therapy, Inc. in San Diego, California and is a Certified Daring Way™ Facilitator + Consultant and Certified Internal Family Systems Therapist. Rebecca has also started Rebecca Ching Leadership Coaching and Consulting where she develops leaders through coaching and workshop experiences. She lives in San Diego, CA with her husband and their two children where they enjoy cooking, going to farmers markets, all things ocean and outdoor sports.

Rebecca and Sarah discuss how as therapists they are no longer able to speak “human,” the two different types of therapists (those who are hot messes and know it and those who are hot messes and don’t…), and geek out about their knowledge of shame-resilience work.